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Early IBM machines and parts

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:10 am
by SpidersWeb
Rebuilding my collection of goodies, good home and will guarantee nothing will be wasted - will do my best to repair anything that stops working.
Don't expect handouts, but can't quite pay ebay pricing :(

Machines on my wishlist:
- IBM PC AT
- IBM PS/2 (any models)
- Early Compaq's
- Amstrad CPC6128 if local (Wellington or Hutt Valley)

Bits:
- 8 bit 10Base2 network card(s) - even better if it has a UTP connector but wont push my luck!
- 8 bit VGA adaptor
- genuine IBM PC and PC-XT peripherals/accessories (keyboards etc).
- MFM drives and/or controlelrs
- Any documentation, adverts or manuals regarding the IBM's 1982-1986 (I currently have the 5150 Basic Guide of Operations and the DOS book)

Re: Early IBM machines and parts

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:41 am
by tezza
Re: my earlier post in the Introduction section, I see you do have an interest in the PS/2 range.

Re: Early IBM machines and parts

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:31 pm
by Carcenomy
SpidersWeb wrote:Bits:
- 8 bit 10Base2 network card(s) - even better if it has a UTP connector but wont push my luck!
- 8 bit VGA adaptor
- genuine IBM PC and PC-XT peripherals/accessories (keyboards etc).
- MFM drives and/or controlelrs
- Any documentation, adverts or manuals regarding the IBM's 1982-1986 (I currently have the 5150 Basic Guide of Operations and the DOS book)

I can't help on real deal IBM stuff, BUT!

I do have some MFM bits lying around, and I definitely have network cards. 3Com Etherlink IIs. Just like this wee chap:
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Had a bag of boot ROMs for 'em too! Possibly got some early DtK XT-class hardware spare too.

Before I can fish all that gear out though, I need to get a Wizard of Wor cart sent and figure out how the heck I'm going to package an Amiga 500 :) Just PM me with any specifics and I'll see what I can dredge from the woodwork.

Re: Early IBM machines and parts

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:20 am
by SpidersWeb
Forgot to reply :)

That sounds epic, that 3Com looks nice!
I'll be in touch to see what you have found after (and IF) I get these XT/AT's from Hamilton.
I suspect I'll be wanting to find two network cards - 8 bit + 8 or 16bit non-plug'n'play, maybe a 3rd if I could fix that 386.

Setting up an card to boot over the network could be an extremely handy tool, any idea what protocols were on those ROMs?
Would make my own but finding a cheap ROM burner doesn't seem as easy today as it was in yesteryear

Have a server in the house that I could easily setup as a boot server (runs Debian etc).

Re: Early IBM machines and parts

PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:53 am
by SpidersWeb
Stuff I really need but will only pay reasonable rates:

- XT keyboard ($10-20ish?)
- AT keyboard ($10-20ish?)
- 16 bit ISA network card(s) with 10Base2 / UTP (I could get a AUI adaptor to make them UTP though). ($5-20?)
- Another 1 or 2 IDE hard discs which do not need to use LBA (even a 1Gb drive with a Limit jumper would be great). (can get these delivered for ~$70 - so less than that)
- XT/AT cases, no PSU necessary, any brand but must fit old style PSU, prefer them not to have rust holes. (price neg but shipping will be a killer so not toooo high)

Stuff I'll pay more than the going rate for:

- MFM hard drives (another 1 or 2 would be nice) (Price Neg)
- Hercules monochrome monitor <-- !!!!!!!!!!
- IBM PC XT keyboard
- spare Tandon 360Kb with TRES fitted (its the terminating resistor added to the last drive in the chain)

Things I will allow myself to spend huge on:

- Seagate ST412 in operating condition (preferably with controller but not essential)
- IBM CGA card and matching IBM 5153 monitor
- IBM PC-AT 5170

Re: Early IBM machines and parts

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:39 pm
by SpidersWeb
Right at this moment, on the jump up and down scale:

- Hercs Mono (any brand)
- CGA card (any brand)
- 8088 compat keyboard (any brand, can swap+cash for AT 5 pin)
- Toshiba laptop floppy pre-1990.
- 4164 RAM chips

Can pay in cash, and/or ROM favours when my Willem arrives from China. The UV eraser FINALLY turned up today just need the rest of the kit!

Re: Early IBM machines and parts

PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:35 am
by SpidersWeb
Just updating my list, I can't buy all of these at once but please get in touch if you'd be willing to negotiate or sell any of:

- 8088 keyboard
- 5150 or 5160 motherboard

- 286 motherboard, AT $
or
- Generic 286 machine, no screen $$
or
- IBM 5170 + keyboard $$$

Re: Early IBM machines and parts

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:16 pm
by RdM
Whereabouts in NZ are you?

May have some of the things on your list(s) - hadn't logged in for a long time!

I'm in Auckland... just thinking freight, practicalities etc.

Yes I know the lack of specifics is a bit of a teaser but I need to look find sort out etc.
Maybe over the next few days.
Else I was going to list items on TM, just remembered to look in here!

Regards,

Ross

Re: Early IBM machines and parts

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:54 am
by SpidersWeb
Hey Ross,

I'm win Wellington but the postage from Auckland is a lot less than the postage from USA I've been paying!!
I'd love to hear what you have :) Let me know when you get a chance to look

I've purchased a few items from NZ and the US since my last update, currently hunting for:

- MFM hard drives and controllers
- any IDE hard drive below 500Mb - smaller the better
- IBM systems - or a IBM AT case or IBM 5150 PC motherboard
- Normal CGA or EGA display
- Monochrome 9 pin display (I have one working now, but it gets shared)
- My sanity
- 486 style AT case + PSU

Re: Early IBM machines and parts

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 11:50 am
by RdM
Sorry to take so long to reply!

- MFM hard drives and controllers

Apart from a jet engine-sounding Rodime brick, marked intermittent sector not found, no MFM drives left; sadly ISTRC also throwing out old Kalok octagon & early IBM? RLL drives much earlier.
That Rodime maybe 5MB is likely not really useable except as an artifact.
But I do have some few MFM/RLL controller XT boards, I think.

- any IDE hard drive below 500Mb - smaller the better


Ah, now, (after all this time, checking them out ;-) - quite a choice!]
[Listed without prejudice, or intent to treat; - just a list, so far! ;=})]
[and I'm considering testing them, what it takes, & so forth ... ;-) ]
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2x Seagate ST351A/X 40MB (stepper motor)
(jumpers for XT/AT operation)
http://www.redhill.net.au/d/16.php
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/d ... 000003.htm

1x Seagate ST3144A 130MB
http://www.redhill.net.au/d/123.php
http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/a4000hard/st3144.html

1x Miniscribe 8051A 40MB
http://www.driveparameters.com/Miniscribe/8051A/
http://www.redhill.net.au/d/14.php

1x Quantum ProDrive LPS 52AT 50MB
http://www.computerhope.com/hdquantu.htm#prodrive

1x Quantum ProDrive ELS 127AT 120MB
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/dta/29278/

1x Quantum ProDrive ELS 210AT 210MB

1x Quantum ProDrive ELS 420AT 420MB

1x Conner CP30104H 120MB
http://www.computerhope.com/hdd/hdd0060.htm

1x Conner CP30201 212MB
http://www.computerhope.com/hdd/hdd0065.htm

2x Conner CP30254 250MB
http://www.computerhope.com/hdd/hdd0052.htm

1x Conner CFS850A 850MB
http://www.computerhope.com/hdd/hdd0025.htm

1x Fujitsu M2681TAM 264MB ATA2 Fast (256kb cache)

1x Maxtor 7120AT 120MB
http://www.driveparameters.com/Maxtor/7120AT/

1x Maxtor 7540AV 540MB

1x Western Digital Caviar 140 42.6GB
http://www.redhill.net.au/d/18.php

3x Western Digital Caviar 1210 212MB (128kb cache) (one noisy)
(other two have Win95 installs from note) (need to check what else)

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- Normal CGA or EGA display

Sad to report I tossed a CGA a few years ago; I still have some EGA boards, not sure on CGA

- Monochrome 9 pin display (I have one working now, but it gets shared)


Ah well, now here's where it gets more interesting...

You might like this perfectly functioning item I spray-painted satin black from beige years ago, all dismantled to do so & even a green metallic spot for the on-off knob, & years later stored since seems still fine ... an Intra brand mono monitor:

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3-4_right-sm.jpg
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front - off.jpg
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lower front CU-sm.jpg
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monochrome-sm.jpg
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- My sanity


Aargh...

- 486 style AT case + PSU


A few of these but I doubt worth the freight I think.

Anyway, I'll see about testing some or all of the hard drives - let me know what you might be interested in.

The Intra monitor I had stuck on TM last year, to no interest - I'd be happy to see it go to a good home for a modest amount - what offer?

Ross

Re: Early IBM machines and parts

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 5:01 pm
by SpidersWeb
woo! Will send you a PM when I get home.

Re: Early IBM machines and parts

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:15 pm
by TheRevva
SpidersWeb wrote:Right at this moment, on the jump up and down scale:

- Hercs Mono (any brand)
- CGA card (any brand)
- 8088 compat keyboard (any brand, can swap+cash for AT 5 pin)
- Toshiba laptop floppy pre-1990.
- 4164 RAM chips

Can pay in cash, and/or ROM favours when my Willem arrives from China. The UV eraser FINALLY turned up today just need the rest of the kit!

Hi,
Please forgive me if I'm breaking any rules here with my first post on this forum. (I'm sure y'all will 'educate' me in a hurry... Hehe)
I notice that you are after ANY brand of CGA card and I just happen to have one here in front of me.
It's NOT an IBM original (It's a combo CGA + LPT). I can post up some pix of it if you're interested?
The DB25 socket for the LPT port is rather rusty, but I'm sure it can be cleaned up. Also, the light-pen input header pins are bent. (Those header pins can normally be bent and then half-way straightened up before they plain break off!)
I have NOT tested it, but I know it was 'working' when it was pulled many many moons back.

I'm not interested in ANY money. However, I will GLADLY exchange it for an 8-bit ISA Trident VGA card with a socketed BIOS ROM
It might sound a little weird, but I need the Trident 8-bit ISA VGA card for a genuine PRODUCTION system that's STILL in use today. (Scary huh?)
(If anyone is interested in WHY I need it, I'll gladly elaborate. I've already installed one, but I really need a second one for the alternate / backup machine)

I'll take a dig around my 'archives' section later on and see what other 'useful junk' I might have to offer forum-ites.

Re: Early IBM machines and parts

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:37 pm
by Gibsaw
I'm very interested in the "why" a generic third party VGA BIOS would matter that much..

Re: Early IBM machines and parts

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:48 pm
by tezza
TheRevva wrote:Hi,
Please forgive me if I'm breaking any rules here with my first post on this forum.

Welcome to the forums. Feel free to add a note or two about yourself in the Introductions forums if you think you'll stick around.

TheRevva wrote:I'll take a dig around my 'archives' section later on and see what other 'useful junk' I might have to offer forum-ites.

Useful junk for sale, trade or gifting is always welcome here. :)

Re: Early IBM machines and parts

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:03 pm
by SpidersWeb
Welcome aboard!
I've actually ended up importing most of the pieces I've needed or found them on trademe.

Currently the only thing I'm hunting for is an IBM AT case and power supply - which is going to cost $300 from the US :(

I only have one 8 bit card that does VGA, not sure if it's a Trident though, but it's my backup as it also does CGA/EGA/MDA, and I think I'd regret trading/selling that off. I was just searching on ebay for you, but good lord 8 bit VGA is expensive!!! If I had more than one I'd help. Best of luck to you, are you in NZ?

And maybe make a new thread about this production machine, I'm quite interested :D