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Re: Classic-computers.org.nz upload on YouTube

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:07 pm
by tezza
kevman3d wrote:Nice stuff - thanks Terry.

mrad01 wrote:Great video! (as usual)

Thanks!

mrad01 wrote:Maybe you could do a shootout video between the C64 and the Spectrum - which is the best of the two?
(actually, maybe not - it cannot be answered)

LOL...and dangerous to try. Also, it depends on the criteria of "best". Best value for money, best technically, best version of BASIC, best for keeping under the bed..? You see what I mean :)

Best to say they are both well-loved classic computers :D

Re: Classic-computers.org.nz upload on YouTube

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:26 am
by mrad01
tezza wrote:LOL...and dangerous to try. Also, it depends on the criteria of "best". Best value for money, best technically, best version of BASIC, best for keeping under the bed..? You see what I mean :)

Best to say they are both well-loved classic computers :D


You could have points for each of those categories...but I agree with you - both well loved and lets leave it there.

Re: Classic-computers.org.nz upload on YouTube

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:31 am
by Gibsaw
Naaaaahhh.... having owned neither, I'll stir this pot.

I'd struggle to see how the original Spectrum would topple the C64. It definitely had value for money on it's side, but in terms of functionality, peripherals, Screen resolution, Memory, the original spectrum compares better with a VIC20 than a C64.

- Both quite low text resolution with similar colour capability
- Both had slightly strange graphics limited by an association with the underlying character grid. The spectrum for it's colour map, The VIC using programmable characters.
- The spectrum is a very compact, but the VIC20 had a better keyboard.
- The spectrum has more RAM. Both can be expanded.
- The VIC had 3 channel sound in 3 octaves, The spectrum had a single channel in 10 octaves.
- comparable speed. (Yes, a 1MHz 6502 is comparable with a 3.5MHz Z80)
- Both were primarily cartridge + cassette machines. (Yes the VIC had disk drives, but really... who had those at the time? and the spectrum's microdrive.. mm. problematic and from what I saw. Not common either.)

Re: Classic-computers.org.nz upload on YouTube

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:35 am
by lizardb0y
I always find this argument entirely pointless. The C64 and the Spectrum were in entirely different price brackets so they're not really comparable. I had a second hand Speccy because that's what we could afford. It did the job just fine.

Re: Classic-computers.org.nz upload on YouTube

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:55 am
by Gibsaw
Really? I thought my assessment was reasonably fair. It's comparable with the VIC20, both in terms of cost and features.

Re: Classic-computers.org.nz upload on YouTube

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:03 am
by lizardb0y
Gibsaw wrote:Really? I thought my assessment was reasonably fair. It's comparable with the VIC20, both in terms of cost and features.


Sorry, yes you are right in the comparison between the Vic-20 and Spectrum. They were closer in capability and similar price. For your money you got slighly better capabilities in the Vic-20 and more RAM in the Spectrum. It's the Spectrum vs C64 argument that never holds water for me.

Sadly I don't have a date for this advert as it was clipped before I got hold of it:

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Re: Classic-computers.org.nz upload on YouTube

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:39 am
by Gibsaw
The thing that really makes them even more comparable is by the time you put a 32K expander in the VIC20 and a 48K expander in the Spectrum, you had really quite comparable machines... and the price of the commodore disk drives, relative to the VIC20 itself, meant that the VIC20 generally stayed a cassette machine. (Or you would have bought the C64.)

Re: Classic-computers.org.nz upload on YouTube

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:43 pm
by tezza
machinecoder wrote:Got a shock when you lifted the bonnet and put up the bonnet stay :shock:

Did you check the oil and water ? :P

incidently there is 31K free, not 32K, not that it really matters.

VERY impressed by that computer, nice! directory scrolls forever.

would definitely watch more of your video's :D

You're talking about the PET 3032 yea? I agree, it's a cool vintage bit of gear and having the PetDisk just makes it so easy to use.

Re: Classic-computers.org.nz upload on YouTube

PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:33 pm
by tezza
In computer terms it's Jurassic charm in a clip-up aluminium box. My Kaypro II on YouTube.
http://youtu.be/2LO6Pv2IXxc

Re: Classic-computers.org.nz upload on YouTube

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:25 pm
by tezza
Another one of my computers in the spotlight. The not-so-well-known (but handsome) EACA Colour Genie.
http://youtu.be/8HozhCgfXWA

Re: Classic-computers.org.nz upload on YouTube

PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:06 pm
by tezza
Another member of the collection; a model that's been discussed a lot on this board lately!! The Apple IIe. :)
http://youtu.be/ENno_zzst2U

Re: Classic-computers.org.nz upload on YouTube

PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:15 pm
by tezza
Another of my vintage computers on YouTube. This time that lesser known sibling of the TRS-80 Model 100, the NEC PC-8201a.
http://youtu.be/d6z6nzzXlUQ

It was the second computer I owned!

Re: Classic-computers.org.nz upload on YouTube

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:14 pm
by tezza
My Atari 800XL. Now on YouTube.
http://youtu.be/rxmcUVYECJg

I'd love an Atari 800 (*envious of lizardboy*) but its successor is OK too.

Re: Classic-computers.org.nz upload on YouTube

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:47 pm
by tezza
Two grand old ladies from my classic computer collection. The Apple Lisa 2 and Lisa 2/10
http://youtu.be/mm0hqVVjY48

Re: Classic-computers.org.nz upload on YouTube

PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:39 pm
by tezza
Some of you would have seen it by now but anyway....My take on the Commodore 64
http://youtu.be/LfpYaz8FtEY