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@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
I just couldn't let my Apple II+ languish on Youtube in low-def. Here is a new HD remake:
@LasseKaila
9 years ago
Nice video, I remember using one in school, during our BASIC classes :)
@BryonLape
7 years ago
You really have a serious collection. Thanks for sharing all these machines with us.
@southjerseysound7340
6 years ago
True and best of all is his videos are like a library of classics............I dont get why the view count is so low though.Then again I might be expecting too much from the average Youtube viewer too ;-)
@DeclanOKaneMD
6 years ago (edited)
love the videos - had a zx81 and apple IIe at school and then atari 400 at home, lots of great memories showing my daughter.
@tezzaNZ
6 years ago
Thanks Declan
@LocutusEnterprises
7 years ago
This was my second computer. I learned machine code on this computer and as I didn't have an assembler program I typed hexadecimal direct into memory. I also created a graphic drawing program which used the joystick to control the cursor. The joystick could move the cursor in 8 directions. My setup was pretty much exactly like yours is. I even had spare parts and when the keyboard controller failed I used the chip from the spare parts machine.
@TheGuyThatEveryoneIgnores
3 years ago
Hooray! Someone else who programmed by typing hexadecimal. 300: A9 C3 20 ED FD A9 CF 20 ED FD A9 CF 20 ED FD A9 CC 20 ED FD A9 A1 20 ED FD A9 8D 20 ED FD 60 300G
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Microsoft also made a 16K Language Card. I had one, sold it it a few month ago on ebay.
@jimb032
1 year ago
Microsoft made the language card also, not just CPM
@williamcorcoran8842
3 years ago
Terry, I couldn’t agree more that the a2 case was stylish! I was like 13 when I first got my hands on one at Computer Camp! (I hiked, I swam, I ran .... a computer!)
There is something about the a2 that other computers (the trinity) didn’t have. Perhaps it was color, perhaps it was the 8 expansion slots that led one to think hard on how to fill them all. Perhaps it was the excellent documentation. As the a2 plus transitioned to the a2e, the documentation was dumbed down.
Great video.
@MagesGuild
3 years ago
Microsoft also sold a RAM card for the ][+, and later, a Z80 card for the //e an above.
@MagesGuild
3 years ago
The video output on the Europlus is not true PAL. Instead, it is a hybrid Frankenstein format of '50Hz NTSC'. If you want colour output in a PAL display, you need the PAL video card for slot 7. Don't forget the ITT 2020.
@namachari
3 years ago
"pissed" LOL
@netcreature
3 years ago
I just picked up an RX-8800 North American model. Thanks for a look at this rare machine.
@stephanielane3165
3 years ago
damn i remeber using this compulter in elementary school back when there was no enternet apple has come a long way
@tommisera3816
4 years ago
It would be great if apple came out with a retro 2e updated version. Computers would be fun to use again.
@LeGoFrit
4 years ago
I had the luck to have one when I was 10 year's old kid (a society discard) after coding basic from scratch (no hard drive) with a Tandy TRS80. I liked the sound of the booting and the 5"1/4 floppy reading. Good memory
Yes, but when that will be, I just don't know. Hopefully a few more in 2018 (:
@paulnegri8214
6 years ago
Hi, there Tezza would you like to do a video on the apple 2 computer from 1977?
@X-OR_
6 years ago
Happy 40th Birthday Apple II. Introduced at the West Coast Computer Faire on April 16, 1977
@southjerseysound7340
6 years ago
Thanks again for another great video.I truly dont get why these don't have 10-100 times more views.But you really have a amazing collection and have done a great job at documenting them for all to see.
@daylightbigboy
6 years ago
Great video! I wish my ][+ worked, all it says is ??@@??@@. Keep up the great work!
@tezzaNZ
6 years ago
Thanks for those supportive words!
@southjerseysound7340
6 years ago
Streamlined Steamroller,keep at it and most likely you can get her working again.
@blackterminal
7 years ago
Some people did indeed use them for business. Years ago when these were cheap I picked up one from miles in the country from a sweaty farmer. It came with a mountain of business software and papers. IT was also packed with mysterious expansion cards, none of which I was able to identify. Seeing this I can see what two are..
@SO_DIGITAL
7 years ago
always interesting
@tezzaNZ
7 years ago
Thanks!
@MariaEngstrom
7 years ago
It's amazing to see how Apple have transformed, from creating an open computer that encouraged alteration, expansion and hacking, to very locked and closed mobile phones and other portable devices.
@WilliamShinal
5 years ago
Yeah, they are forcing people to buy new computers and phones by refusing to repair them in the first place.
@VulcanOnWheels
8 years ago
Was this computer the only one to use a ] and a square?
@tezzaNZ
8 years ago
+Bert Visscher You mean for the BASIC prompt? Only one I know that used the ] . A few others used a static or blinking square for the cursor.
@DavidAmmerlaan
8 years ago
excellent vid! thanks for sharing this
@tezzaNZ
8 years ago
***** You are welcome David.
@Jelly_goober
8 years ago
How much does it cost to get an apple ][e in the cheapest way possible.
@tezzaNZ
8 years ago
Hard to say. Prices vary a lot. Watch ebay for ones that sell.
@asgerms
9 years ago
I'm quite impressed with the rx-8800. The keyboard (with numeric keys, function keys, both original horizontal arrow keys (for games made for that layout) AND bank of hor/ver keys) seems better than even the IIe-platinum and miles above a II+. It looks like it has a "caps" key so I guess it will do lowercase too. And the it's much closer to the desk for better comfort. It was probably dirt cheap too (compared to an original II+), so nice going Chin Hsin!
@akiraneko4440
9 years ago
Thank you for doing such a well done video about old computers. Detailed and good quality. I appriciate it a lot. Thank you!
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
You're welcome Akira.
@TheFlyingScotsman
9 years ago
I'm without a decent internet connection at home at the moment but this video was a treat to watch over MacDonald's Free Wi-Fi. I have still to get an Apple II for the collection. I'd probably be looking to get a //GS so that I can play the most amount of software.
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
Yes, the //GS is excellent for compatibility (and clarity if you have the RGB screen) but it doesn't have that iconic Apple II form factor (-:
@TheFlyingScotsman
9 years ago
Aye you're right there. It kind of looks a wee bit generic next tae the Apple ][ Plus
@256byteram
9 years ago
Great video! Years ago a friend gave me a Taiwanese Apple ][+ clone, but it wasn't a straight carbon copy of the Apple board. It had a Z80 built in, which suggested they incorporated the Microsoft Z80 card into it. Just a shame I didn't have the skills back then to fix it.
I figure they chose "READY GO" for the clones' startup message because it has the same character count as "APPLE ][" on the original, so they could copy the original ROM verbatim, except those eight bytes.
Excuse me while I go play with my Apple //c!
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
Yes, I have heard of clones that had a Z80 card "in the mainboard" so to speak. It would have been a selling point. I agree about the READY GO.
@fawdown
8 years ago
+256byteram I had a Franklin Ace 500 Apple II clone, but it wasn't 100% compatible. However it only lasted 6 months. I replaced it with the Laser 128 plus which still works and is 100% compatible. It has an overdrive processor and extra ram, but I would still trade it for a genuine Apple IIe.
@blondie7575
9 years ago
Regarding the drive labeling, the "Drive 1" is actually a rigid plastic sticker that came with the machine. Applying them to the drives was optional, and many people didn't do it. You should be able to find either a clean drive, or the stickers themselves. You can pry off the "Drive 1" and apply a Drive 2 to one of yours. Soften the glue with a hair dryer if it resists removal. No need to replace the whole drive bezel. I've seen the sticker packs that came with these machines for sale on eBay.
The V-Tech clone was the Laser 128. The Laser 128EX, interestingly, was better in every way than the //c it was cloning. It had a numeric keypad, function keys, switchable CPU speed up to 4MHz, internal RAM expansion, and an expansion slot on the side. All for half the price of the //c.
@strictlysega
9 years ago
hey terry, i got my hands on a couple of amiga 2000's i haven't plugged either of them in yet and i was wondering if you are looking for ideas for new episodes maybe some tips about what to do when u get our hands on a classic pc,, what you do to clean them up etc please? eg i think one of them has a leaky battery.. i cant tell.. i dont know what im looking for,, as well as that the plugs and all metal feels really rough,, where as ive felt my friends ones and their meant to be smooth. btw im not expecting you to approve this comment.. but if you could get back to me that would be awesome.
@JacGoudsmit
9 years ago
Thanks for the remake!
The only time I ever worked on an Apple II series computer was in 1989 or so, when I had to do a lab assignment as part of my Computer Science study. The system was mostly obsolete by then but the lab had some hardware that was specific to the Apple II and it was a good way to teach us the UCSD Pascal system. Back then, Pascal was the language of choice in the curriculum, and the teacher spent a lot of time teaching us how the P-system worked: basically the Pascal code was translated to a binary intermediate code, which was then interpreted. Kinda like how Java works nowadays.
I remember it was a comfortable system to type on, and it was even decently fast for the assignment I had to do, but the keyboard was just in the wrong place. I used an IBM PC/XT at home, and the Apple keyboard felt as if the back of the system needed to be propped up so it would be possible to rest my hands on the table. Of course this was impossible because the floppy drives were on top of the machine and I wasn't allowed to move stuff around in the lab.
Apples were never very popular in the Netherlands, because they were so outrageously expensive. There was a lot of "grey import" from Germany for other computers such as the various Commodores, but Apples were very rare. Nevertheless, I do like the Apples from the Woz days. They were well-designed and as you mentioned, they were well-documented and inviting for tinkerers. Maybe I'll build my own clone some day :-)
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
Yes, the prices were outrageous here in New Zealand too, so I think that was a universal thing.
@Shot97
9 years ago
Interesting to see all the clones... I guess Jack Tramiel was right when he said if you price something with a reasonable price, maybe 3 times as much as it costs you to make it, then no one will want to clone it.
Apple to this day is mostly about convincing people they are classier than others and that you must pay for this class.
Still, they're still around and Commodore sure isn't! - but I'm not so sure that's going to be true for much longer...
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
Yes, Apple clones found a huge market here in NZ, being 2/3 of the price or less of the real thing.
@gusantunez6224
9 years ago
Thank you, I enjoy your videos very much, greetings from the US
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
Thanks Gus
@fallingseasons
9 years ago
hey Terry, just interested, do you have a mockingboard or any other voice synthesis module for the apple ii in you're collection?
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
Yes, actually I do. It's sitting in it's original box with the manual. I've never got around to playing with it though.
@fallingseasons
9 years ago
Terry Stewart that's awesome. I always wondered what useful application it would have besides the cool talking apple ii factor
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
Joey Srour Yes, this is one of the reasons it is still in box. I couldn't really figure out what I would use it for. I could be wrong but I don't think there were many games that used a mockingbird.
@vwestlife
9 years ago
Correction: that's an RCA cable going to the monitor, not an RF cable. :-)
The Applesoft manual is unique in that it points out many of the bugs and quirks that you'd likely never encounter in normal use. A rare sign of honesty, compared to many other companies which try to hide their products' flaws.
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
Quite correct. Once more to the annotations feature. (-:
@Lachlant1984
9 years ago
VTECH also made Apple II clones, you may know VTECH because they made talking electronic learning aid computer toys for kids, I have one that I've had since I was 7. VTECH made heaps of things like that.
300: A9 C3 20 ED FD A9 CF 20 ED FD A9 CF 20 ED FD A9 CC 20 ED FD A9 A1 20 ED FD A9 8D 20 ED FD 60
300G
There is something about the a2 that other computers (the trinity) didn’t have. Perhaps it was color, perhaps it was the 8 expansion slots that led one to think hard on how to fill them all. Perhaps it was the excellent documentation. As the a2 plus transitioned to the a2e, the documentation was dumbed down.
Great video.
Don't forget the ITT 2020.
I figure they chose "READY GO" for the clones' startup message because it has the same character count as "APPLE ][" on the original, so they could copy the original ROM verbatim, except those eight bytes.
Excuse me while I go play with my Apple //c!
The V-Tech clone was the Laser 128. The Laser 128EX, interestingly, was better in every way than the //c it was cloning. It had a numeric keypad, function keys, switchable CPU speed up to 4MHz, internal RAM expansion, and an expansion slot on the side. All for half the price of the //c.
The only time I ever worked on an Apple II series computer was in 1989 or so, when I had to do a lab assignment as part of my Computer Science study. The system was mostly obsolete by then but the lab had some hardware that was specific to the Apple II and it was a good way to teach us the UCSD Pascal system. Back then, Pascal was the language of choice in the curriculum, and the teacher spent a lot of time teaching us how the P-system worked: basically the Pascal code was translated to a binary intermediate code, which was then interpreted. Kinda like how Java works nowadays.
I remember it was a comfortable system to type on, and it was even decently fast for the assignment I had to do, but the keyboard was just in the wrong place. I used an IBM PC/XT at home, and the Apple keyboard felt as if the back of the system needed to be propped up so it would be possible to rest my hands on the table. Of course this was impossible because the floppy drives were on top of the machine and I wasn't allowed to move stuff around in the lab.
Apples were never very popular in the Netherlands, because they were so outrageously expensive. There was a lot of "grey import" from Germany for other computers such as the various Commodores, but Apples were very rare. Nevertheless, I do like the Apples from the Woz days. They were well-designed and as you mentioned, they were well-documented and inviting for tinkerers. Maybe I'll build my own clone some day :-)
Apple to this day is mostly about convincing people they are classier than others and that you must pay for this class.
Still, they're still around and Commodore sure isn't! - but I'm not so sure that's going to be true for much longer...
The Applesoft manual is unique in that it points out many of the bugs and quirks that you'd likely never encounter in normal use. A rare sign of honesty, compared to many other companies which try to hide their products' flaws.