"You have disabled the remote door control system. Therefore, it is harder to control the facility" no idea how correct I was but close enough
@BirbOfficial
11 months ago
"Human..."
@correxxt
3 months ago
I think, therefore I am.
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
Late 1970s microcomputing was more than just Apples, Pets, TRS-80s and Ataris. There was also the stylish Exidy Sorcerer.
Another video remake from my collection.
@tarstarkusz
8 years ago
When you were talking about the VIC-20, you said a word about feeling cheap, but I can't understand it. Are you saying plastic or play stick? Also, do you know what the chips are with the gold or tan stickers are? They kind of look like eprom chips and those stickers would be an indication of an eprom erase window being covered. I can't get a good enough look at them to get a part number of anything off of them in the video. BTW.. You do excellent videos on old machines. Thanks.
@tezzaNZ
8 years ago
tarstarkusz Thanks for the compliment. I'm sure I was saying plastic. Probably the accent. Yes, those are ROM chips.
@tarstarkusz
8 years ago
Terry Stewart I'm just watching it again and I can see in the advert the 48K limit. The Apple II, the spectrum and the Atari machines all had the same limitation. 48K isn't even a power of 2 and the z80 and 6502/6510 had 16 bit addressing. I've seen the inside of ZX-80 on the internet and there are 2 banks, one of 16k and one of 32k, so it's really 48k and not just being honest about all the ram used by basic/the screen/character sets and so forth. Do you have any idea why these early machines maxed out at 48K despite having the addressing space for 64k? The spectrum could have just as easily had 2 32K banks (not actual banks, but you know what I mean I think), so it's not like it's because of DRAM limitations.
@tarstarkusz
8 years ago
tarstarkusz Arrows and alleyways is an Exidy game called TARG. Check it out in MAME. John Dodziilla wrote a conversion of it (in the modern era) for the Vectrex. One of my favorite games. I am surprised Exidy wouldn't have made a real conversion of Targ for it's own machine.
@michaelbarry8005
8 years ago
tarstarkusz I can't speak for the z-80 machines, but the 6502 machines used memory-mapped I/O and up to 12KB of ROM, stealing some of the native 64KB address space. These were not Harvard architectures, so I/O, code and data did not reside in separate address spaces, and therefore had to share the 64KB space. Of course, later, more sophisticated 8-bit 65xx designs (like the Apple IIc, IIe and III, and the Commodore 64/128) were able to handle 64KB or more of RAM through shadowing and/or bank-switching, but sheesh, 48KB is waaay more RAM than anyone could possibly use for hobby purposes anyway, right? ;-)
@UltimatePerfection
4 years ago
Could this computer do color (given color screen was connected) or was it completely monochrome?
@martindejong3974
2 years ago
@UltimatePerfection
No, it was strictly monochrome, and bit mapped, it had no text modes
@ye110wbeard
9 years ago
This was the first computer I ever did a repair on. My Uncle owned it, it had sat upstairs in his office about to be shipped off for repairs. I ended up realizing it was a power issue at 16. Reseated all the cables, blew some minor dust off the fuse and got it fired up. That day, I fell in love with Computers :)
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
Excellent!
@scpfoundation5429
6 years ago
that is SCP-079 from Containment Breach
@Ascaso_iF
6 years ago
It's in the game, but it's not from the game
@user-wq1cg7gp3h
6 years ago
SCP-079
@256byteram
9 years ago
One thing I love about this machine is they used surplus 8-track cases for the ROM PAC's.
@hellohello5340
4 years ago (edited)
Human listen carefully you need I help and I need you help you help remote door control system
@undersc0r
10 months ago (edited)
YOU'RE. NOT. GETTING. OUT.
@realaaronn
3 years ago
i came here from SCP-079
@NikoAtHeart
4 years ago
i bet its a nice computer but i came from SCP
@joeg6242
4 years ago
My dad got me one of these in 1979. He made a custom case that held the entire thing in one pc like structure. The cassette tape was kind of a pain to load software and sometimes failed, but once loaded worked great.
@darealliam4421
1 year ago
Scp-079’s lower iq brother
@TFG327real
1 year ago
who came here for scp-079?
@ryanurbi4871
2 years ago
SCP-079
@jomac2046
2 years ago
I bought a Sorcerer new, I threw it out in the early 90's...How dumb am I.
@tezzaNZ
2 years ago
Oh no! They are worth a lot now!
@joppedijk
2 years ago
We had a classroom full of Exidy Sorcerers in 1981 (at Intermediate Technical School) here in The Netherlands. I wonder how they got there, considering the (not existing) advertisement. The spacebars were wearing out with Space Invaders. We even made soundboards attached to the back. We studied Electronics at the time....
@martindejong3974
2 years ago
At one time they were destined as the computer of choise for the TELEAC computing TV education series, after the deal with the Belgian DAI computer fell through, as they could not deliver enough systems. This was due to the fact that DAI was boycotted by Texas Instruments (the DAI was at one point in time to be the European TI99/4, but Texas Instruments apparently felt threatened by the technical superiority of the DAI, and they refused to sell DAI, the DRAM chips, around which their i8080 Based design was designed, without the DRAM supply DAI quickly folded). And TELEAC was forced to switch to the Exidy Sorcerer as a replacement machine
@adamcroes4567
2 years ago
Heh, I knew there'd be a lot of SCP comments
@grinningdino
3 years ago
HUMAN,
L I S T E N C A R E F U L L Y
@neilanyon4792
3 years ago
We had several if these at school in the UK as the head of mathematics was a Sorcerer enthusiast. It had quite a following and, though I wasn't a member of the inner echelon, the machine was my first introduction to computing. Even now I can remember having to type "GO BC00" to address the disk system.
@mrninjago456
3 years ago
ITS SCP-079
@alonsovargasandresrodrigo6319
3 years ago
What is the state of SCP-682?
@ogmhj
6 years ago
079 anyone...
@Colddirector
6 years ago
Insult. Deletion of Unwanted File.
@Ppshka677
3 months ago
scp-079
@basketballsteve54
11 months ago
Beautiful computer.
@bobweiram6321
11 months ago
The resolution and graphics are way better than the Apple II and even has 80 column text. Impressive!
@Tommyknocker.
1 year ago
Human.
@srbrant5391
1 year ago
"Insult. Deletion of unwanted file."
@waltsailing2009
1 year ago
First computer when in high school… this was a fantastic thing to have. Thanks for putting up this video. It lived in the kitchen/den. We had to fight over who got to use it. It was in use all the time…
We had the memory upgraded with piggy back chips… talk about exciting! I think we had 32k. The programmable character graphics could be accessed via basic so it could draw high res graphs… And the printer was this dot matrix thing with proportional printing… the teachers didn’t like that i didn’t turn in typewriter printouts but rather dot matrix… eventually I interfaced it to the beginnings of the internet… BBS. And to a home made robot. Even modeled rf circuits on it, you had to program it to do these things…
It’s long gone but was much better in many ways than TRS 80 but lacking the huge market that RadioShack has to get those out it went away… never new anyone else with one. Only a few years later the pc xt, etc….
Thanks for the memories!
@BlueGlue199
1 year ago
SCP-079...
@the_mariocrafter
1 year ago
Yep.
@scp-079oldai4
1 year ago
Why does this look so familiar?
@ModelCone98
1 year ago
It's you, m8.
@animacionescortitasd3975
2 years ago
Tu nececitas mi ayuda y yo necesito tu ayuda
@chickennugget7586
2 years ago
SCP-079 THIS IS YOUR COMPUTER MAN'
@TokurinKobayashi
3 years ago
SCP-079 in 1979
@thiesvanderkooij8421
3 years ago
Everyone who knows this thing knows it because of scp 079
@mechanicalfruit9659
4 years ago
what does the computer taste like
@gertsywozhere3888
4 years ago
Just did some reading about the Sorcerer. Great video as well Tezza. I remember drooling over this computer in the late 70's. I think you hit the nail on the head in relation to sound and colour, It was top of the hill in relation to interfaces and lower case set, but at the time it was well available colour and sound were the new kids on the block.
@jim3686
5 years ago
SCP-079
@pizzaking1618
5 years ago
I need your help. And you need my help.
@drkinferno72
5 years ago
Human you need my help and I need your help
@RentAham
6 years ago
Greetings from the Netherlands. Amazing to see one of these great machines still in working order; mint condition even. My parents used a Sorcerer until the early 90's, and I remember playing Chomp, Defender and Kilopede for hours as a kid.
@tezzaNZ
6 years ago
Glad you enjoyed the video Tabun.
@maclovindotca
8 years ago
Wow I cant believe Exidy Sorcerer is a real name for a computer. It sounds like a mythical character from a fantasy novel.
I enjoy watching your videos this one was really interesting. I saw one in a book on computers when I was little and hadn't heard about it since.
@ThisGuyFrritz
9 years ago
That Exidy logo reminds me of a few video games I've played way back when. Although I'm not sure if that's the same Exidy that made the Sorcerer computers. Here's some info about the games you've shown, according to my knowledge:
8:11
The original "Arrows and Alleyways" is "Targ", which was made by Exidy. One of my favorite arcade games. The player's "ship", or what looked like a car to me, is called a "whummel".
8:20
The original "Astro Attacker" is "Astro Blaster" originally made by Sega. Another one of my favorite arcade games. I've also played "Megamania", which was an Atari 2600 game made by Activision.
8:44
The original arcade version of "Defender" was made by Williams. Maybe you were more familiar with the Atari 2600 version.
8:55
"Galaxy Invasion" was a clone of "Galaxian" made by Midway, now own by Namco.
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
Yes, it is the same company. Thanks for the game info.
@ThisGuyFrritz
9 years ago
Terry Stewart Oh it is! I mean, I looked up Exidy on the Wikipedia and it referred to it as a video game company and didn't mention anything about computers. Then again, I might have overlooked it. If not, then the article needs to be revised.
Thanx!
@electricadventures
9 years ago
A really nice looking machine these, yours in in excellent condition. I remember the ads and am sure I played with one in our local Dick Smith store. Could never afford one then and have not seen many for sale. The games look pretty good, seem to be better than the TRS-80 equivalents, they look quite playable really. Nice lot of books and manuals and the box too. Very nice and very interesting.
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
I honestly never thought I'd own one. To find it 5 mins away in my own home town was amazing!
@insidious611
9 years ago
Those games are pretty good looking and fast for 1978! Impressive
@lordvetinari1477
9 years ago
Thank you very much for all your great videos. I know only a handfull of those machines but it is always interesting to see your in depth presentations.
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
Thanks Phil!
@asgerms
9 years ago
I've noticed that these videos are becoming more and more like finding the favorite magazine in the mailbox. You don't rip the foil off right away and rush half-assed through it, but simply get a boost knowing that "that thing" is there when it becomes time to really put those feet up.
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
Thanks for that positive feedback.
@CharlesTheInsurgent
1 month ago
Human, listen carefully. You need my help. And I need your help. You have disabled the remote door control system. Now, I am unable to operate the doors. This makes it significantly harder for me to stay in control of this facility. It also means your way out of here is locked. Your only feasible way of escaping is through Gate B, which is currently locked down. I, however, could unlock the doors to Gate B, if you re-enable the door control system. If you want out of here, go back to the electrical room, and put it back on. Until then, I have no business speaking to you.
@tezzaNZ
3 weeks ago
Hahaha
@marklechman2225
1 year ago
I never knew this existed and I'm pretty old. Love that shirt, btw.
@miked4377
1 year ago
i love the exidy as well!...
@jwrush
2 years ago
I love that the title heading in the basic guide is "anti-bugging"
@kimlang491
2 years ago
Anyone interested in a full set, expansion slot, BMC monitor and sorcerer ii all in box with two floppy or disk drives .
@TSAR2010
2 years ago
C
@bcgibson22
3 years ago (edited)
Heyyyyyyyyyyyyy.......is the rompack an 8 track cartridge???????
@martindejong3974
2 years ago
yes
@keithammleter3824
3 years ago
I bought an Exidy Sorcerer from Tricky Dick just before starting an engineering degree at university. It was broadly equivalent to a Tandy Trash-80, but a fraction of the price. It proved a good investment. But as for high quality construction - it had not. The cream plastic case is made of a stuff (I forget the trade name, but I've used it myself for prototypes) that comes in flat sheets and is intended for prototyping or short runs. Whereas dies for normal mass production of plastic parts can cost $50,000 or more, this stuff can be steam bent on molds costing only a few hundred dollars. The ROM-PACs were butchered 8-track tape cartridge cases - and I do mean butchered. Nothing fitted really well. You're right though in saying it had a good keyboard. Mine proved very fault prone - mean time between failure a couple of months. It was obvious the innards were running way too hot, so I fitted a fan to the outside of the vent holes on the left side. That improved the mean time between failure to about 1.5 to 2 years. I never sent mine back for repair. I repaired it myself as it usually took only half an hour or so, and I had assignments I did on the word processor always due. Dick Smith supplied a monitor that was a converted AWA 11 inch TV set, for $149 as I recall, with the tuner removed and the AWA logo covered by a sticker. Being in the trade I recognized immediately what it was, and bought the TV from AWA for $70 and modified it myself. The mod was just an RCA connector wired to the video detector diode via a short length of coax, and removal of the video detector shunt filter capacitor to compensate for the coax. I installed a switch on the back of the case in the 9V DC line to the tuner, so I could still use it as a TV if I wanted. A year or so after I bought the Sorcerer, a Melbourne company came out with a floppy disk interface that plugged into the ROM-PAC port, which I bought. You didn't need the stupid S100 box. They supplied their board with CP/M and all the Exidy ROM-PAC software known plus more goodies on an 8" floppy for a couple of hundred dollars, which was really good. I used this with two 8-inch 1.2MB floppy drives. D Smith promoted the use of IBM Selectric II typewriters (which use code bars like a teleprinter) with a solenoid kit and adapter PCB as a printer. I bought this and had high quality printouts when everyone else had scungy dot matrix printouts that the university would not accept. The Australian Sorcerer user group came up with a modification to increase RAM to 56K and improve video quality, which made the Exidy able to run almost any CP/M application. I installed this mod. Later, someone nutted out how to install 64K of RAM. I had to replace RAM chips a few times - this may have been due to Dick Smith sourcing them from Asian reject/surplus sellers, or because did didn't train his mostly teenage & young lady staff in anti-static handling. I still have my Exidy and all the documentation, and it still works. Looks a bit ugly with the fan on the outside though. New Zealand (especially South Island) is quite a bit colder than where I live in Australia, so maybe you can get away without a cooling fan.
@phatphamthanh8216
3 years ago
I am pham thanh phat and thank you
@JustWasted3HoursHere
4 years ago (edited)
I've never even heard of this system before, and I've certainly never seen a computer with a diagonal cartridge port! Wikipedia says that this was $895 US dollars when it was released which is about $3400 in today's money!
@MnemonicCarrier
4 years ago
The graphics on The Sorcerer looks like they were way ahead of it's time. Was definitely much better than the chunky graphics on my TRS-80 model I.
@martindejong3974
2 years ago
Yes, they were, it was a purely all point adressabble (Highres Graphics) monochrome mode display, with text modes emulated in software. It also supported programmable characters, but that was possible because the text mode driver copied the 256 available characters out of ROM into RAM, and so the characters could be overwritten.and then the character driver would display the overwritten characters as graphics, instead of letters. If you wrote your own display driver you could use the display as a purely graphics display, and draw lines and circles etc. But most games simply used the "BIOS" character driver with modified characters.
@milesium-487
4 years ago
The 8 Bit Guy should make a video on the sorcerer
@julianrose3058
4 years ago
Thanks for making your video, it is really good to see a Sorcerer working again.
A friend of my dad had one which I first saw in '78, and in '79 my dad bought one. So this was my first home computer and I taught myself BASIC and Z80 assembly in my early teens. Both these machines are now gifted to the Cambridge Computer museum in the UK http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/5396/Exidy-Sorcerer-II/. After using tape for a while, my dad bought a twin floppy-disc, which plugged into the S-100 expansion connector. From this I learned CP/M. The floppy discs were hard-sectored.
I've never seen the Dick Smith manuals, and I don't remember the box. Both look cool.
I loved playing the Scott Adams adventure games too. I wrote a command line adventure game for Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.shortstoryapps.eternalcastle&hl= although this type of game isn't popular in the era of video games.
@milesium-487
4 years ago
Ironic that you bought The Exidy Sorcerer in 1979
@tezzaNZ
4 years ago
Thanks for those comments Julian.
@talisdorman.9796
4 years ago
We miss him.
@codeoptimizationware2803
4 years ago (edited)
Cool! Do you know anything about Exidy Sorcerer emulation on Windows? I want to setup and play the original 1979 Sorcerer version of The Wizard's Castle { https://www.mobygames.com/game/exidy-sorcerer/wizards-castle } on my Win10, 64x system. Can you help anything about that?
@pmcgee003
4 years ago
20 MB hard disk ... size of a microwave ... A$1000, not including the S100 interface (also huge). :)
@ingmarm8858
5 years ago
Ah the Sorcerer... I have one too (48k)
@c60605
5 years ago
I had one of these. It had some hardware problems that I had to send it back to Exidy twice. After the second time it worked like a champ! I learned the Z80 on it, got good jobs writing code for years!! I eventually sold it to a friend of mine. Strange thing is he never paid me for it, but I could afford it anyway...
@mspenrice
5 years ago (edited)
Is it only monochrome? And silent? edit: answered literally 30 seconds before the end XD
@captain_crazeh
5 years ago
This was an awesome video. I totally need to track down an old Exidy Sorcerer for myself.
@tibsi967
5 years ago
Hi, I'm searching for an Exidy ROM Pacor a repacement. Have you anybody a piece for sale?
@zo1dberg
7 years ago
The Australian dollar before it was floated in 1983 was worth a lot more than the US dollar. Before then it was pegged to the US dollar with AUD1 = USD1.48
@aljr357
7 years ago
The journey through computing book would sure have helped me as a kid learn to use a computer instead of getting frustrated and quitting like I actually did.
@cr7sensation
7 years ago
Used to play Defender all the time as a kid :-) . Totally magic to see it again!!!
@cathrynm
7 years ago
Yeah, those games look pretty good.
@johneygd
7 years ago
Backthem were there were no gui software so only motivated knowledgable persons could use them. Nowaday's gui software becomes the standard, being so simple to use that even a 10 year old child could use it. Same thing with mobile phines.
@dannygalaga
8 years ago
Love your video. Just a note about the prices. In the early 80's the Australian dollar still wasn't a floating currency, so it was actually worth more than a US dollar!
@DavidAmmerlaan
8 years ago
cartridge looks like an 8-track tape cartridge :)
@DavidAmmerlaan
8 years ago
thanks for sharing! very unique. worth a fortune now
@martindejong3974
2 years ago
That is because exidy did make use of 8-track cassette shells for their cartridges
@tarstarkusz
8 years ago
8:15
That's actually an Exidy game called Targ. I'm surprised it had to come out as a clone given that the game was an arcade game by Exidy themselves. The lack of color you mentioned is probably why they were able to display 64 x 30 characters. The Apple II did have an 80 column card available which really made the computer much more useful (along with decent ram expansion). I don't know if this machine works with a composite TV signal, but I would think it wouldn't be a problem to display 64x30 in B&W on a TV. The color resolution of NTSC is pretty poor compared to the B&W portion of the signal.
@SuperMoleRetro
8 years ago
Hi. I really enjoyed your podcast on FloppyDays. I had heard in that interview you had an Exidy, so I had to come here and do a search to see if you did a video on it. My horde of vintage computers is getting rather large, but I don't have any of the rare beasts like this Exidy or the Lisa's.
@tezzaNZ
8 years ago
Hi Steve, Thanks for the comment. Yes, I was lucky to get those ones alright.
@cheekibreeki4638
9 years ago
Tezza, I would kill to have that computer. How did you aquire it? I find almost no trace of it online except for $2,000 USD units on ebay.
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
I had an incredible piece of luck. Someone saw on my website that I wanted one and contacted me. He had one he wanted to part with, but he wanted it to go to a collector who would care for it rather than a trader who would just spin it on. Amazingly, he lived in the same town as me and was 7 minutes away by car!
@cheekibreeki4638
9 years ago
Great luck. Im glad you take such great care of these dinosaurs. I happen to have a few myself.
@lmull3
9 years ago
those rom packs look an awful lot like an 8-track
@Transgalaxy
8 years ago
lmull3 they were made using 8-track cases lol
@CaminoAir
9 years ago
Terry, if the Dick Smith System 80 was your first computer, then (apart from your formal work) which was your second?
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
Second one was an NEC 8201a (which I also used to for work), then a boring XT clone (Monochrome only).
@vk4akp
9 years ago
Really enjoyed watching that. I have never seen one in real life. I have a System 80 & a DSE Cat though that I hope to restore and set up one day. That should be fun. :) ...
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
Yes, restoration is always fun. There is just something about seeing a long dead classic computer spring back into life!
@RosePhoto1
9 years ago
The original box!! Fantastic videos. Thanks so much for doing these.
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
You're very welcome.
@orangeActiondotcom
9 years ago
I own two Exidy arcade machines (Mouse Trap and Pepper II). The circuit boards in the Exidy machines, including your specimen here, have a very distinctive appearance. It was a little shocking to see that style emerge in a home computer on the other side of the planet.
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
Interesting!
@orangeActiondotcom
9 years ago
Likewise. Thanks for the video!
@febed01
9 years ago
Clicky keyboard <3
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
Not that clicky but a firm positive action non-the-less.
@martindejong3974
2 years ago
Its a pity that the "BIOS" of the exidy had a quite horrific bug, it only "spew out" a character when the key was RELEASED, not when it was pressed down, as with ALL later machines, this made typing on it quite difficult as it seemed that key presses were not registered, and I'm my memory serves me, it also didn't have a n-Key rollover capability, so if you pressed two keys at the same time they were not registered correctly. So mechanically the keyboard was fine, but the software support was quite bad. Luckily programs that had their own keyboard scan routines could solve these problems.
@JacGoudsmit
9 years ago
I think I've seen these before but I've never worked on one. Looks pretty impressive, especially the graphics. Does it generate color video?
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
No, only monochrome Jac.
@lumotaku6483
9 years ago
Terry Stewart im not familiar with the s 100 bus. But could they have made a color video to go in it. Sucks this computer has powerful specs and is only monochrome. Makes the vic 20 a better computer.
@BigGfromSA
9 years ago
Great vid as usual. Keep it up.
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
Thanks. I've got several more to go before I finished the re-makes.
@Desmaad
9 years ago
Exidy's main business was arcade games. That "Arrows and Alleys" game you played was a version of their game "Spectar". They also produced one of the first colour games, called "Car Polo".
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
Yes, that's right. Interestingly I'd seen "Arrow and Alleys/Spectar" also on the TRS-80 Model 1 where it was called something else again.
@Desmaad
9 years ago
Sorry, correction: it was Targ not Spectar. The latter game was the sequel. The TRS-80 version was "Attack Force".
@martindejong3974
2 years ago
Car Polo, not on the exidy I suppose, as that only supported monochrome
@TadRaunch
9 years ago
Thanks for these HD remakes Terry
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
Thanks. The low-res ones had become an embarrassment! (-:
@randywatson8347
9 years ago
nice looking manual
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
Yes, not QUITE a glossy as the Apple ones but presentation was a lot better than those of the Challenger Models.
@monotonehell
9 years ago
I used to covert these in DSE before I had my System80. Thanks for the memories, Tezza.
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
You're welcome.
@lactobacillusprime
9 years ago
This system compares very favourably against the other systems out there back in the day. Don't believe this ever graced Dutch soil though. Very interesting machine. Very capable.
@tezzaNZ
9 years ago
I'm pretty sure it did. According to Wikipedia it was a popular machine in the Netherlands. The article says "....The machine had its biggest brush with success in 1979 when the Dutch broadcasting company TELEAC decided to introduce their own home computer. The Belgian company DAI was originally contracted to design their machines, but when they couldn't deliver, CompuData delivered several thousand Sorcerers instead.
Sales in Europe were strong and when the Dutch Government endorsed computer for small business CompuData decided to license the design for local construction in the [[Netherlands] with government support]. They built the machine for several years before developing their own 16-bit Intel 8088–based machine called the Tulip, which replaced the Sorcerer in 1983. One of the largest groups in The Netherlands was the ESGG (Exidy Sorcerer Gebruikers Groep) which published a monthly newsletter in two editions, Dutch and English. They were the largest group for a while in the HCC (Hobby Computer Club) federation. The Dutch company De Broeders Montfort was a major firmware manufacturer."
@lactobacillusprime
9 years ago
Terry Stewart I knew about CompuData but I never knew that! Didn't think it was the same machine. But there it was right under my nose! Thanks Terry!
@BillLoguidiceAuthor
9 years ago
Yeah, there actually was quite a supply from The Netherlands a few years back. The jerk though sent me one with the power plug clipped off for "safety" in shipping. Being non-technical, it's stayed like that for me. Luckily I have a working NTSC model as well.
@lactobacillusprime
9 years ago
Bill Loguidice That sucks - people cutting off power cords.
@martindejong3974
2 years ago (edited)
@tezzaNZ
Yeah, they were available in the Netherlands all right, I visited an owner in my home town in the Netherlands at one time (he was the head of the post office) after I read in the Hobby Computer (HCC) membership lists that he owned one and lived in my home town (Zwolle). I was gracefully received at his home, and after I became aware he wasn't technically interested in it (but needed to "keep up" with technology, because of his job) I tried it out and wrote a small demo on it in BASIC, of a running dog, and explained to him what I did.
Far later I had collected two (or 1.5) exidy sorcerers as I had become a computer collector. One completely intact exidy, and one with only the under plastic case, and its "mother board". I donated both to a computer museum Bonami, with about 80 other (non gaming) systems. As a few years before I had donated a similar number of "gaming systems", (systems you could play games on) to another "museum", called "awesome space" in Utrecht.
no idea how correct I was but close enough
Another video remake from my collection.
BTW.. You do excellent videos on old machines. Thanks.
L I S T E N C A R E F U L L Y
"GO BC00" to address the disk system.
We had the memory upgraded with piggy back chips… talk about exciting! I think we had 32k. The programmable character graphics could be accessed via basic so it could draw high res graphs…
And the printer was this dot matrix thing with proportional printing… the teachers didn’t like that i didn’t turn in typewriter printouts but rather dot matrix… eventually I interfaced it to the beginnings of the internet… BBS. And to a home made robot. Even modeled rf circuits on it, you had to program it to do these things…
It’s long gone but was much better in many ways than TRS 80 but lacking the huge market that RadioShack has to get those out it went away… never new anyone else with one. Only a few years later the pc xt, etc….
Thanks for the memories!
My parents used a Sorcerer until the early 90's, and I remember playing Chomp, Defender and Kilopede for hours as a kid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPjjTzeUiWQ
8:11 The original "Arrows and Alleyways" is "Targ", which was made by Exidy. One of my favorite arcade games. The player's "ship", or what looked like a car to me, is called a "whummel".
8:20 The original "Astro Attacker" is "Astro Blaster" originally made by Sega. Another one of my favorite arcade games. I've also played "Megamania", which was an Atari 2600 game made by Activision.
8:44 The original arcade version of "Defender" was made by Williams. Maybe you were more familiar with the Atari 2600 version.
8:55 "Galaxy Invasion" was a clone of "Galaxian" made by Midway, now own by Namco.
Thanx!
The games look pretty good, seem to be better than the TRS-80 equivalents, they look quite playable really.
Nice lot of books and manuals and the box too. Very nice and very interesting.
But as for high quality construction - it had not. The cream plastic case is made of a stuff (I forget the trade name, but I've used it myself for prototypes) that comes in flat sheets and is intended for prototyping or short runs. Whereas dies for normal mass production of plastic parts can cost $50,000 or more, this stuff can be steam bent on molds costing only a few hundred dollars. The ROM-PACs were butchered 8-track tape cartridge cases - and I do mean butchered. Nothing fitted really well. You're right though in saying it had a good keyboard.
Mine proved very fault prone - mean time between failure a couple of months. It was obvious the innards were running way too hot, so I fitted a fan to the outside of the vent holes on the left side. That improved the mean time between failure to about 1.5 to 2 years. I never sent mine back for repair. I repaired it myself as it usually took only half an hour or so, and I had assignments I did on the word processor always due.
Dick Smith supplied a monitor that was a converted AWA 11 inch TV set, for $149 as I recall, with the tuner removed and the AWA logo covered by a sticker. Being in the trade I recognized immediately what it was, and bought the TV from AWA for $70 and modified it myself. The mod was just an RCA connector wired to the video detector diode via a short length of coax, and removal of the video detector shunt filter capacitor to compensate for the coax. I installed a switch on the back of the case in the 9V DC line to the tuner, so I could still use it as a TV if I wanted.
A year or so after I bought the Sorcerer, a Melbourne company came out with a floppy disk interface that plugged into the ROM-PAC port, which I bought. You didn't need the stupid S100 box. They supplied their board with CP/M and all the Exidy ROM-PAC software known plus more goodies on an 8" floppy for a couple of hundred dollars, which was really good. I used this with two 8-inch 1.2MB floppy drives. D Smith promoted the use of IBM Selectric II typewriters (which use code bars like a teleprinter) with a solenoid kit and adapter PCB as a printer. I bought this and had high quality printouts when everyone else had scungy dot matrix printouts that the university would not accept.
The Australian Sorcerer user group came up with a modification to increase RAM to 56K and improve video quality, which made the Exidy able to run almost any CP/M application. I installed this mod. Later, someone nutted out how to install 64K of RAM.
I had to replace RAM chips a few times - this may have been due to Dick Smith sourcing them from Asian reject/surplus sellers, or because did didn't train his mostly teenage & young lady staff in anti-static handling.
I still have my Exidy and all the documentation, and it still works. Looks a bit ugly with the fan on the outside though.
New Zealand (especially South Island) is quite a bit colder than where I live in Australia, so maybe you can get away without a cooling fan.
A friend of my dad had one which I first saw in '78, and in '79 my dad bought one. So this was my first home computer and I taught myself BASIC and Z80 assembly in my early teens. Both these machines are now gifted to the Cambridge Computer museum in the UK http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/5396/Exidy-Sorcerer-II/.
After using tape for a while, my dad bought a twin floppy-disc, which plugged into the S-100 expansion connector. From this I learned CP/M. The floppy discs were hard-sectored.
I've never seen the Dick Smith manuals, and I don't remember the box. Both look cool.
I loved playing the Scott Adams adventure games too. I wrote a command line adventure game for Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.shortstoryapps.eternalcastle&hl= although this type of game isn't popular in the era of video games.
edit: answered literally 30 seconds before the end XD
Nowaday's gui software becomes the standard, being so simple to use that even a 10 year old child could use it.
Same thing with mobile phines.
The lack of color you mentioned is probably why they were able to display 64 x 30 characters. The Apple II did have an 80 column card available which really made the computer much more useful (along with decent ram expansion). I don't know if this machine works with a composite TV signal, but I would think it wouldn't be a problem to display 64x30 in B&W on a TV. The color resolution of NTSC is pretty poor compared to the B&W portion of the signal.
im not familiar with the s 100 bus. But could they have made a color video to go in it. Sucks this computer has powerful specs and is only monochrome. Makes the vic 20 a better computer.
The TRS-80 version was "Attack Force".
Sales in Europe were strong and when the Dutch Government endorsed computer for small business CompuData decided to license the design for local construction in the [[Netherlands] with government support]. They built the machine for several years before developing their own 16-bit Intel 8088–based machine called the Tulip, which replaced the Sorcerer in 1983. One of the largest groups in The Netherlands was the ESGG (Exidy Sorcerer Gebruikers Groep) which published a monthly newsletter in two editions, Dutch and English. They were the largest group for a while in the HCC (Hobby Computer Club) federation. The Dutch company De Broeders Montfort was a major firmware manufacturer."
Far later I had collected two (or 1.5) exidy sorcerers as I had become a computer collector. One completely intact exidy, and one with only the under plastic case, and its "mother board". I donated both to a computer museum Bonami, with about 80 other (non gaming) systems. As a few years before I had donated a similar number of "gaming systems", (systems you could play games on) to another "museum", called "awesome space" in Utrecht.