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Steve Jobs and his legacy

Postby tezza on Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:10 am

The Steve Jobs discussion probably ran it's course in the Trade Me thread, but I couldn't help posting a link to this recent article
http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/55372 ... pple-legcy

I fits with my own assessment of the man and his legacy.
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Re: Steve Jobs and his legacy

Postby Carcenomy on Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:34 pm

The rose tinted glasses make people think of Steve Jobs as some kind of diety, a man who truly changed the world and brought us amazing things. Take them off and it doesn't take long to realize that he was simply the figurehead of a company that makes its money by sticking it to everyone. This ain't the early Apple who made fantastic products crafted by the likes of Woz, this is a savage company that I want no part in.
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Re: Steve Jobs and his legacy

Postby coogie on Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:11 pm

Seems appropriate to post today, given the loss of Steve, whether we agreed with his personal ethics or approach to the business, his significance and impact on the world of IT&T can't be denied.

So pausing to remember the early days for a moment, I will put my rose tinted glasses back on and say....

RIP Steve.
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Re: Steve Jobs and his legacy

Postby lizardb0y on Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:45 pm

coogie wrote:Seems appropriate to post today, given the loss of Steve, whether we agreed with his personal ethics or approach to the business, his significance and impact on the world of IT&T can't be denied.

So pausing to remember the early days for a moment, I will put my rose tinted glasses back on and say....

RIP Steve.


+1

No rose tinted glasses necessary.
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Re: Steve Jobs and his legacy

Postby tezza on Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:54 pm

coogie wrote:Whether we agreed with his personal ethics or approach to the business, his significance and impact on the world of IT&T can't be denied.


Indeed. RIP Steve Jobs
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Re: Steve Jobs and his legacy

Postby Gibsaw on Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:04 pm

coogie wrote:Seems appropriate to post today, given the loss of Steve, whether we agreed with his personal ethics or approach to the business, his significance and impact on the world of IT&T can't be denied.

So pausing to remember the early days for a moment, I will put my rose tinted glasses back on and say....

RIP Steve.


Yep.. Indeed... Today is not the day to analyse. I owe some of my fondest childhood memories to the two Steve's, and despite whatever Apple have acheived, there's a family right now saying goodbye to their dad at only 56.

RIP Steve.
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Re: Steve Jobs and his legacy

Postby Carcenomy on Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:26 pm

Love him or loathe him, Mr Jobs was one of the greatest marketers this world has seen. Much as one shouldn't tie a man entirely to his product, some of the devices built by companies under Steve's watch have been active participants in events which have changed the IT landscape forever and for that, the man deserves commendation.

My opinion of him doesn't change entirely - he always was a hard line hustler and pushed his staff incredibly hard behind closed doors, but for sake of compassion we'll let all that slide. Let's just hope history doesn't paint him as something he wasn't... it's not fair on the rest of computing history.
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Re: Steve Jobs and his legacy

Postby tezza on Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:06 pm

Carcenomy wrote:Let's just hope history doesn't paint him as something he wasn't... it's not fair on the rest of computing history.


Well, I'm already hearing some of that (Steve Jobs never made a mistake, Steve Jobs invented the personal computer etc.). But, as you say, this is the time to feel sympathy for the man and his family. 57 is too young to die. And his impact on the IT industry and the way we use computing technology was huge. Like Edison (also not without his faults) he will be remembered by history as a great man.
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Re: Steve Jobs and his legacy

Postby gavo on Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:35 pm

No one can reasonably deny that Steve Jobs was the man. He was there near the start and survived through a whole lot of change in the industry - some of which he instigated. Apple owe what they are today are to him. Personally, I admire the guy for everything he achieved and of course the original Apple line he helped bring to market right back at the start of Apple (I like to block out the fact that he also killed it ;-) ), so on that note, here’s my small tribute to Steve Jobs...

http://www.youtube.com/user/gavonz
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Re: Steve Jobs and his legacy

Postby coogie on Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:43 pm

gavo wrote: so on that note, here’s my small tribute to Steve Jobs...
http://www.youtube.com/user/gavonz

Nice work Gavo, very cool 8) - how did you digitize the photos? Thunderscan?
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Re: Steve Jobs and his legacy

Postby tezza on Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:53 pm

Yes, well done. That's the first time I've seen digitised photos on the Apple IIe. More resolution than I expected!
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Re: Steve Jobs and his legacy

Postby gavo on Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:24 pm

Thanks guys. As usual I harnessed the might of the smart guys in the apple community (I'm just a user after all!) ;-)

The pictures were downloaded from the interweb onto my eeePC 501 windows netbook. I then converted them into GIF format. Next, using CiderPress I copied them into Apple II disk images on the 501. Then I fired up AppleWin on the 501, booted the disk images and used the apple II program "IIGIF" to convert the pictures into Apple II black and white hi-res binary format. I could have converted them in colour, or even double hi-res, but I wanted them to work on any 64k Apple II - and my IIe has a monochrome green screen :) Anyway, after converting them all in the emulator and then throwing together a small applesoft BASIC program to cycle through them, I transferred them to my real Apple IIe using ADTPro - I did this using the audio features - Headphone/Mic ports on the 501 attached to the cassette in/out port on the IIe (this is an amazing program btw).

If anyones interested the disk image is here: http://retro-net.org/~gavo/ByeBoss.po

As an aside, it almost didnt happen as I hadnt used the IIe for a while, only had two floppies (both in bad condition!), had to replace a disk II controller (lucky I had a spare!), had two drives pop on me 30 seconds in, had to clean oily gunk off the third (and final) drive to get it working (after it had destroyed my first disk), then my G key wasnt working - the only one that wasnt working and one of the only ones I actually needed (to execute the machine language programs loaded by ADTPro), a bit of isopropyl and wiggling sorted it out tho :)

Still, its all part of the fun - and not too bad for a 25(ish?) year old machine :)

P.S. I wish I hadnt thrown out (well sent to the recylcers) my Image Writer I and its thunderscan cartridge :(
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