tezza wrote:Well, I guess it's like the e-bay Apple II recently bought. If you really, really want it and you've got the money, you'll get it.
But the machines that carry a premium usually hold a certain place in the "pantheon". The Apple II (particularly early revisions) definitely holds a special place in the history of microcomputers. (A real Apple I being in a price class all by itself.)
YetiSeti wrote: I really thought that what looked equally like a roll of loo paper in the photo might have detracted from the value of the auction. Not the best look.
lizardb0y wrote:The "roll of loo paper" is actually printer paper for the 1520 in the auction.
YetiSeti wrote:But the machines that carry a premium usually hold a certain place in the "pantheon". The Apple II (particularly early revisions) definitely holds a special place in the history of microcomputers. (A real Apple I being in a price class all by itself.)
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YetiSeti wrote:It seems it's the Vic-1540 drive that is the rarity. In summary, rare, was more expensive than the computer in the day, faster than later drives, boxed one worth around $400US.
Gibsaw wrote:YetiSeti wrote:But the machines that carry a premium usually hold a certain place in the "pantheon". The Apple II (particularly early revisions) definitely holds a special place in the history of microcomputers. (A real Apple I being in a price class all by itself.)
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Heh. Nah, not really. Yes, the original Apple II is special to me.. but it also held a number of of other significant milestones.
It really was the first (widely available) machine that had everything you need, right out of the box. Things that we take for granted these days. Colour Graphics (in fact a video output at all)... A keyboard. ROM's and BASIC built in... A tape + joystick port (ANY peripherals in fact.)... an open, easily extendible architecture.
lizardb0y wrote:The TRS-80 Model 1 was released less than a month after the Apple II - it too had everything bundled in a nice consumer style package, and it out-sold everything Apple came up for years. The Commodore PET 2001 was a full consumer package announced several months before the Apple II although it didn't ship until later the same year. It also out-sold the Apple II series through the '70s. I know it is popular to believe that Apple invented the consumer PC market, but it just isn't true.
tezza wrote:lizardb0y wrote:The TRS-80 Model 1 was released less than a month after the Apple II -...<snip>...out-sold the Apple II series through the '70s. I know it is popular to believe that Apple invented the consumer PC market, but it just isn't true.
Absolutely right Andrew. I'm not sure Gibsaw was saying that though, rather he was just enthusing on a model he obviously loves. It did have colour and was very expandable.
lizardb0y wrote:EDIT: Sorry. That came across a bit ranty. I think all the Steve Jobs hysteria has been wearing me down this week.
Gibsaw wrote:You're not alone... Apple lost my love when they closed the architecture with the Mac.. They lost even more of my love when they closed the door and put bars and a bouncer on it with the "appstore".
Steve is a charismatic man. He's the double edged sword that damages Apple and keeps it alive. Without his stubbornness and bad cockups, Apple might have been bigger sooner. Without his drive and his polarising, cult-of-mac rabble rousing, Apple might have been dead.. Who knows.
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